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From: Jacques Goldberg <goldberg@phep2.technion.ac.il>
Reply-To: Jacques Goldberg <Jacques.Goldberg@cern.ch>
To: evm@mail.nascentnde.com
Cc: LinModems <discuss@linmodems.org>
Subject: Re: Software vs hardware [Was: Lucent V92 softmodem: NO DIALTONE]
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 On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Marvin Stodolsky wrote:
[see below] and Marvin is of course right.
 What Eugene (and he is not alone) seems not to know is that a modem
driver can always be loaded in memory just as any other program, and the
keyboard and display can talk with the software just loaded, thus many
AT.. commands work, because they talk with the driver software only, not
with the chipset.
 But when it comes to ATD (dial), of course, it will never work, because
the hardware (chipset) is only correctly operated by the driver software
written for that specific chipset, which, as Marv writes, does not (yet)
exist in the present case. The driver sends your ATD.. commands "in the
air", to nothing existing, waits for the DIAL TONE which will never come
because no signal was created on the phone line nor detected, and gives up
after some time.

> Eugene, 
> 
> Regrettable this:
> -----------------
> ***lspci -nv:
> 01:04.0 Class 0780: 11c1:048c(rev 02)
>       Subsystem: 11c1:044c
> ----------------
> is an AMR soft modem not supported by the DSP chipset ltmodem drivers.
> Agere has not projected a date for their support of these AMR chipset
> modems.
> 
> 
>     VendorID:DeviceID == PCI_IDs  of AC '97 soft modem slots  
>  ==================================================================
> Vendor 
> ------
> ALI     10b9:5450  10b9:5457  
> Intel   8086:2416* 8086:2426 8086:2446* 8086:2486* 8086:7196
> VIA     1106:3068* - some supported by PCTEL or Conexant drivers
> SIS     1039:7013  - some supported by PCTEL drivers
> Lucent  11c1:048c 11c1:048e 11c1:048f - Linux service not yet
> available inOct, 2002
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  Possible support by drivers available at:
>     * Conexant - http://www.mbsi.ca/cnxtlindrv/hsf/index.html 
>     PCTEL      - http://pctelcompdb.sourceforge.net/
> 
> ===================
> 
> MarvS
> ltmodem co-maintainer
> 
> >evm wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I recently bought an Acorp M-56ISL softmodem with Lucent chipset
> > and trying to make it work under Linux.
> >
> > In brief, ltmodem driver installs, I can talk to modem without any problems,
> > but I keep getting a NO DIALTONE message.
> >
> > I have gathered ALL the information from the Internet about Linmodems
> > including "ltmodem-8.22a5" driver.
> >
> > I successfully compiled and installed the driver under Red Hat 7.3
> > with kernel 2.4.18-3 (have source).
> >
> > After I start wvdial, minicom or kppp driver successfully loads, I can talk
> > to it, retrieve its settings with AT&V, set whatever I want, but nothing solves
> > the NO DIALTONE problem.
> >
> > Finally, I am in Ukraine. I tried various t.35 country codes (no Ukrainian one)
> > but this didn't help. I also tried a ATH1 command - no success.
> > Changing my BIOS to non-PnP seems impossible in my situation.
> >
> > What else can I do? Maybe something in the driver itself?
> >
> > Below are some command outputs to judge about my driver:
> >
> > ***tail -f /var/log/messages:
> > Oct9 11:26:56 localhost kernel: Loading Lucent Modem Controller driver version 8.22
> > Oct9 11:26:56 localhost kernel: Detected Parameters Irq=10 BaseAddress=0xc400 ComAddress=0xc000
> > Oct9 11:26:56 localhost kernel: Lucent Modem Interface driver version 8.22 (2002-04-11) with SHARE_IRQ enabled
> > Oct9 11:26:56 localhost kernel: ttyLT00 at 0xc400 (irq = 10) is a Lucent Modem
> > ***lsmod:
> > lt_serial            20768   0  (autoclean)
> > lt_modem            529019   0  (autoclean) [lt_serial]
> >
> > ***cat/proc/interrupts:
> > 0:     100413          XT-PIC  timer
> > 1:       2219          XT-PIC  keyboard
> > 2:        0          XT-PIC  cascade
> > 8:          1          XT-PIC  rtc
> > 9:          0          XT-PIC  ehci-hcd
> >10:          0          XT-PIC  usb-uhci
> >11:          0          XT-PIC  usb-uhci, usb-uhci
> >12:      13990          XT-PIC  PS/2 Mouse
> >14:      17246          XT-PIC  ide0
> >15:       5924          XT-PIC  ide1
> >
> > (The last shows that IRQ 10 is used by usb modules but my problem does
> > not go away when I unload them).
> >
> > ***lspci -v:
> > 01:04.0 Communication controller: Lucent Microelectronics: Unknown device 048c (rev 02)
> >       Subsystem: Lucent Microelectronics: Unknown device 044c
> >       Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
> >       Memory at ed001000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
> >       I/O ports at c000 [size=8]
> >       I/O ports at c400 [size=256]
> >       Capabilities: [f8] Power Management version 2
> >
> > ***lspci -nv:
> > 01:04.0 Class 0780: 11c1:048c (rev 02)
> >       Subsystem: 11c1:044c
> >       Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
> >       Memory at ed001000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
> >       I/O ports at c000 [size=8]
> >       I/O ports at c400 [size=256]
> >       Capabilities: [f8] Power Management version 2
> >
> > Thank you for any help,
> > Eugene Malyarenko
> >
> > evm@nascentnde.com
> 

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